卡尔·伯格:当时我正考虑投资一款护肤产品,然后我在迈阿密大学经人介绍认识了尼文。尼文当时是那个项目的经理,那个项目开始大约一两个月后,尼文给我打电话说:"卡尔,这款护肤产品似乎对治疗癌症有效。"我说:"好吧,如果你治好了谁,记得让我知道。"
You didn't sound very convinced.
你听起来好像不太相信。
CB: Everybody knows that every cancer is different, so how could this one thing work? That didn't make any sense to me. And Niven said, "Can I fly out to California and show you my results?" And he came out, and we talked, and I got convinced that the technology he was using and the approach he was taking, could revolutionize the pharmaceutical market.
卡尔·伯格:人人都知道,每种癌症都是不一样的,那么这个东西怎么会有效呢?在我看来根本就说不通。这时尼文说:"我能飞到加州向你展示一下我的成果吗?"然后他就来了,经过一番交流,我相信他使用的技术和方法真的有可能在医药市场掀起一场革命。
Niven, what did you say to convince Carl Berg that your work on skin cream could possibly lead to a cure for cancer?
尼文,你是怎样让卡尔·伯格相信,你那款护肤产品上有可能治愈癌症?
Niven Narain: When I met with Carl we were aligned philosophically that there has to be a better way to create a more efficient healthcare system - one that really matches the right patients to the right drugs in a very precise manner. So Carl supported taking this concept to the next level. Instead of treating humans with chemicals, that are screened to become drugs, we actually started with human tissue samples and work to understand the biology and develop drugs based on that. Using AI [artificial intelligence] instead of hypotheses.
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